Post details: Myths Busted! and news...

06/18/06

Permalink 08:42:12 pm, by Email , 588 words   English (CA)
Categories: Any News?, General Shtuff

Myths Busted! and news...

Hey folks...

I've had a few e-mails and whatnot about some shtuff that I thought I'd debunk for you... as pertaining to double-decker buses and the dream in general...

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#1: Double-deckers are prone to falling over/rolling.

Answer: Not really. In fact, you're more likely to experience a roll in a standard North American school bus!

Most double-deckers are fitted with anti-rolling mechanisms (usually a long piece of heavy pig-iron mounted on the undercarriage to lower the center of gravity) and the AECs have an excellent track record.

Anti-Roll Mechanism Display

Above (thanks to the London Transport Museum) is an old picture demonstrating the anti-roll abilities of an AEC Regent bus... the "dream bus" (RLH 3) is a "low height" version of the above... so I'm pretty secure.

That, and a tip-top speed of 35 mph definitely limit the chances of a "roll".

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#2: The buses are too tall for roaming other than in particular areas. If you get it, you'll never be able to drive it.

Answer: Nope. In Ontario, it's height is dandy.

In this neck of the woods, a vehicle must be 4.15 meters high to be considered "overheight". RLH 3 is only about 4.01 meters tall... to quote Maxwell Smart, "Missed it by that much!" which is a good thing here!

Yup, none of what you see below...

Oopsy!

Oh, don't panic... the above image was from a "safety film" with a stunt driver... although in Niagara Falls a Routemaster did once lose it's top to a low bridge... (click here and scroll down a ways...) but again, the Routemaster is not a "low height" bus.

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#3: Okay, fine... it's not overheight, but you could never ship it! Putting it on rails or a flat-bed truck could never work!

Answer: Actually, it does and it has worked...

Granted, in all my reading, it's usually been "the other way" (heading from East to West... not West to East...) but one has to assume it's a workable deal. I have actually gotten a quote from a company in California for the shipping...

To show what this looks like, I've borrowed (with apologies) two images from The British Buses Abroad in North America Fotopic website run by Paul Bateson (who's truly the "go to guy" for information on British Buses on the continent)...

Flatbed Bus

Above is an RLH (same model as RLH 3) being sent from just outside of Toronto to Halifax to board a ship back to England...

Train Bus

Above is three Routemaster buses that were sent via rail to Niagara Falls... again, remember that the Routemaster is a taller bus than the Regent Low Height.

So, it is possible to do this... which is important as RLH 3 is not a running bus... she'll need a lot of engine work first before she'll roll under her own power.

There you have it... Some questions answered, I hope... :)

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In other news, I will be "renting" my blog (selling a wee advertising space for "credits",) via BlogExplosion... check back in a week if you're interested! Helping us get some new traffic is a big help to seeing the dream come true!

By far, the most "viewed" entries on this blog are my wife's entry,my post about the terror arrests in Toronto, and the post about the Bas Rutten and Iron Shiek YouTube videos. Hmmm... apparently only my wife's post about the bus is popular! (*sniff*) Oh well, I liked it too... she embodied the passion perfectly.

Remember: We're still running a cool contest and only have ONE entry so far... C'mon folks! Help us get the bus and get one for yourself! :)

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Comments:

Comment from: jarhead john [Visitor] · http://jarheadjohn2.blogspot.com/
Very interesting. I would have believed all of the myths, other than the shipping myth.
PermalinkPermalink 06/19/06 @ 07:04
Comment from: threecollie [Visitor] · http://northviewdiary.blogspot.com/
VERY interesting post and great pictures. Never thought a bus could be so fascinating~!
PermalinkPermalink 06/19/06 @ 13:57
Comment from: admin [Member] Email · http://www.doubledeckerbuses.org/
Thanks folks...

It is scary, however, that these buses ARE actually safer than school buses!
PermalinkPermalink 06/19/06 @ 21:26
Comment from: Ian Watson [Visitor]
What an excellent site indeed.

First question, how on earth did a "Regency 3" end up in Canada?

My local route in London was the last route for the R3's to be used before Routemastering and then selling off to stage coach. I will say that I have travelled on every RT3 and RM (L and Closed Door variants) that were in LT's possession from the mid 70s, I am looking to see if my old bus spotting books are still at my dads.

I now live in Shaftesbury and two Regency Threes left a couple of years ago to go to Bagdhad, they never came back though.

Also, the British magazine Practical Classic used to have a bus fanatic on staff, Nick something or other.

Have you tried Hong Kong for spares, India is also a good place as are regions in Africa, I state HK here as I remember ex LT buses over there when stationed in Hong Kong.

If memory serves me right also, there was for many years a R3 at Catford Bus Depot in south London used for special events and hire, I know a lot of ex LT stock went to Luton Transport and East Riding Bus routes but thought them mainly RM's as LT kept the RML for its flagship routes prior to removing them from the London scenery.

Also, looking at something else, the single decker variant (Bertie the Bus in Audrey's Thomas the Tank books) used the same lower deck and mechanics and I am sure I have seen them in India or Africa.

I will certainly like to keep tabs on this gem of a bus, the RT was hated by many because it didn't have heating like the RM did, and they did fall over because we witnessed one on LT Route 47 in Bromley go over whilst waiting for our own bus home.

I wonder if this is a pre-selector model, that'll be fun to drive the first time...

Anyway, good luck and hope to see some more soon.

Ian
PermalinkPermalink 09/26/06 @ 12:52
Comment from: admin [Member] Email · http://www.doubledeckerbuses.org/
Hello Mr. Watson and thanks for the kind words.

The RLH (Regent Low Height Three) is not here... possibly ever, but I prefer to hope that it's "yet". It's currently in California (USA) and was brought over, like many "low heights", as a promotional vehicle for a company. (Most were either used for promotions or as tour buses... the "low height" making them ideal for North American roads...)

The RMLs is a "second favourit" of a sorts with me... AEC RMs are a fantastic and durable designed bus, and the lengthier build with the "closing rear doors" were a great variation in the Routemaster design.

I can't say I'm too surprised about the RTs going to Bagdhad and not returning... one hopes they're still in one piece!

If/When we succeed in getting RLH 3, I'll certainly consider Hong Kong for spares... but there is another RLH in Ohio in "questionable condition" and I might be able to strike a deal... but rescuing RLH 3 must come first.

As for the driving learning curve... I'm nothing if not up for a big challenge!

Thanks again for the comments and the best wishes!
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